thedarkone2 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
thedarkone2 has joined #jruby
<lopex>
chrisseaton: given lots of languages share ruby semantics I guess it's all like, hey you have such "a" semantics we have an engine for you right ?
<lopex>
I know it's a bit far fetched
<lopex>
in truffle one could imagine a set of (modifiable) semantics you could support off the box
<lopex>
hmm
<lopex>
it's the truffle ast on a new level
<chrisseaton>
Not really sure what you are on about now
<lopex>
just speculating
<lopex>
chrisseaton: well, depends if ruby is a direct subfamily of a smalltalk for example
<lopex>
chrisseaton: imagine a product (smalltalk like semantics, but we can customize it)
<lopex>
runtime, syntax dont matter right ?
<chrisseaton>
I'm sort of lost in your stream of consciousness here
<chrisseaton>
It's like having a conversation with Brian :)
<lopex>
what can I do ? :)
<lopex>
it's just me being me
<lopex>
chrisseaton: I just wondered if there can be a scheme of selling product not based on syntax
<lopex>
chrisseaton: of course you still have to be familiar with coding
<lopex>
chrisseaton: but you can choose one
<lopex>
chrisseaton: I know I'm being an idiot
drbobbeaty has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
<chrisseaton>
I'm just not sure what you are thinking about
<lopex>
tech or sell ?
<chrisseaton>
Sorry I can't even understand what that question means
<lopex>
I think I should just shut up right now
* lopex
runs
<chrisseaton>
I'd love to chat but I'm just not sure what you are talking about
<lopex>
I dunno, just had an insight wrt language adoption and politics
<lopex>
for example truffle is a languale agnostics thing right ?
<chrisseaton>
Yes
Aethenelle has joined #jruby
<lopex>
so, when you have a bunch of smalltalk companies, and then you can show that you can migrate them on truffle
<lopex>
etc
<lopex>
and there's more
<chrisseaton>
Well that's the big idea - one VM for everyone's languages
<lopex>
yeah
<chrisseaton>
And a lot of the basic optimisations are from Smalltalk and Self
<lopex>
I know that, I papers:)
<lopex>
chrisseaton: but
drbobbeaty has joined #jruby
<lopex>
chrisseaton: lots of those companies rely on that are not directly portable to X
<lopex>
where X is SAP for examoke
<lopex>
'*example
<lopex>
chrisseaton: I comletely agree with Oracle graal
<chrisseaton>
SAP? Isn't that a business intelligence application?
<lopex>
chrisseaton: it's the only wayu to go
<lopex>
chrisseaton: yes
<lopex>
chrisseaton: with some funny integration schemes
<lopex>
chrisseaton: does IBM du anything to contraact graal ?
<chrisseaton>
Yes, they have OMR which is a somewhat similar idea
<lopex>
and I meant contrAAct
<chrisseaton>
That's not a word either
<lopex>
btw, sulong FTW
<lopex>
it;s just the IR that's being fed to graal ?
<chrisseaton>
The IR is run by an interpreter written using Truffle - it doesn't go directly to Graal
<lopex>
thedarkone2: hey
<lopex>
ok
<thedarkone2>
lopex: hi!
<lopex>
chrisseaton: so again, it;s all to boil down to single IR ?
<lopex>
and run a GVN on it right ?
<chrisseaton>
Yes it all becomes Graal IR in the end, and GVN is one optimisation we use
<lopex>
wow, I sound so smart to myself when I ask that
<chrisseaton>
GVN is very natural in sea-of-nodes
<lopex>
yeah
<lopex>
chrisseaton: but I heard I conflicts with CSE
camlow325 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.5]
<GitHub177>
[jruby-openssl] marshalium opened issue #105: NullPointerException in PKeyEC.java when calling Net::SSH.start https://git.io/viFm0
<GitHub86>
[jruby] marshalium closed issue #4129: NullPointerException in PKeyEC.java when calling Net::SSH.start https://git.io/viqOm
jsyeo has joined #jruby
jsyeo has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
<GitHub162>
[jruby] bjfish pushed 1 new commit to truffle-head: https://git.io/viFcJ
nicksieger has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
nicksieger has joined #jruby
pil-afk has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.]
rcvalle has joined #jruby
nicksieger has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
nicksieger has joined #jruby
Aethenelle has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
akp has joined #jruby
<GitHub3>
[jruby] jsyeo opened pull request #4175: Fix #4116. Make dirname aware of the file system's path separator (master...jsyeo-dirname) https://git.io/vib9N
havenwood has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
nicksieger has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
akp has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
havenwood has joined #jruby
jsyeo has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
nicksieger has joined #jruby
havenwood has quit [Client Quit]
havenwood has joined #jruby
nicksieger has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
nicksieger has joined #jruby
nicksieger has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
nicksieger has joined #jruby
nicksieger has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
nicksieger has joined #jruby
lanceball is now known as lance|afk
lance|afk is now known as lanceball
tcrawley is now known as tcrawley-away
claudiuinberlin has joined #jruby
jensnockert has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
dinfuehr_ has joined #jruby
akp has joined #jruby
nicksieger has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
akp has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
nicksieger has joined #jruby
akp has joined #jruby
jensnockert has joined #jruby
nicksieger has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
nicksieger has joined #jruby
dinfuehr_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
nicksieger has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]
nicksieger has joined #jruby
nicksieg_ has joined #jruby
nicksieger has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
nicksieger has joined #jruby
nicksieg_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
nicksieger has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
nicksieger has joined #jruby
lanceball is now known as lance|afk
donV has joined #jruby
kith_ has quit [Quit: kith_]
kith has quit [Quit: kith]
nicksieger has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
nicksieger has joined #jruby
prasunanand has quit [Quit: Leaving]
nicksieger has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
nicksieger has joined #jruby
oblutak has joined #jruby
nicksieg_ has joined #jruby
nicksieger has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
oblutak has quit [Client Quit]
nicksieg_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
nicksieger has joined #jruby
oblutak has joined #jruby
nicksieger has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]