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<headius> chrisseaton: I am on the flying fi!
<headius> what's up
<headius> I wanted to ask you a question too: if you don't have jvmci, does truffle have some other way of installing graal output?
<headius> I'm confused by this line in the graal readme: By default, Graal is only used for hosted compilation (i.e., the VM still uses C2 for compilation).
<headius> To make the VM use Graal as the top tier JIT compiler, add the `-XX:+UseJVMCICompiler` option to the command line.y
<headius> minus y
<headius> lopex: we have a gitter for jruby/jruby but it is not preferred
<headius> I won't vote to make our primary chat room on any service that's not open and Free
<headius> chrisseaton: basically I don't understand what "hosted compilation" means and how that even works if you don't use JVMCI
<GitHub152> [jruby] kcdragon opened pull request #4470: Implement `String#casecmp?` and `Symbol#casecmp?` (ruby-2.4...md/feature/string-symbol-casecmp-p) https://git.io/vDO2c
<thedarkone2> headius: no, without jvmci it is game over. "hosted compilation" means hotspots' compilers are used on vanilla java code, but there is jvmci interface available and truffle can compile its code via graal and install it via jvmci
<thedarkone2> headius: `-XX:+UseJVMCICompiler` requires JVMCI, it replaces c2 with Graal (terrible for startup), i.e. vanilla java code that would be handed to c2 is compiled via Graal
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<lopex> headius: I know, I'm there already
<lopex> though I havent seen any notifications lately
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<GitHub92> [jruby] chrisseaton pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vDObr
<GitHub92> jruby/master 2df3c2f Chris Seaton: Remove leftover mx code
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<mberg> Out of curiosity, how stable is JRuby Embed? The wiki states "JSR 223 and BSF are stable APIs. The Embed Core API is somewhat stable, but may change slightly from release to release." but hasn't been updated since 2013. :)
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<chrisseaton> mberg: I think that API is done and dusted
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