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<kares>
headius: no ideas on that front - tried some modularization but I got confused
<kares>
didn't push anything
<kares>
we could do a flag to not do javax.crypto reflection
<kares>
its mostly there to try BC algorithms first before falling back to security providers
<kares>
... while BC isn't installed as a provider
<kares>
it worked great and resolved some issues, which I am no longer exact about
<kares>
guess some of it was jce related, which should no longer matter ... so a switch to not try BC and always use provider - being on with Java 9+ might be a good start
<kares>
will think about it some more
<kares>
if you have ideas (e.g. regarding module-info 'hacks') I'm interested, obviously
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<headius>
kares: we may want to start putting incoming jars on the module path instead of just a url classloader
<headius>
but I don't know those APIs well yet
<headius>
there's a complicated set of APIs for producing layers of modules, which I presume is for loading them dynamically