21:50 <rwilliams[m]> So Jan Berdajs published a jruby fork of spring a few years ago. I guess it never gained as much traction as theine. https://rubygems.org/gems/spring-jruby

21:54 <lopex> yep

21:55 <lopex> well, java annotations made spring bearable from java

21:56 <lopex> spring is wrong abstraction anyways

21:57 <lopex> kares[m]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfJinyofQdk wait until he makes videos about Czech

21:58 <lopex> there's some errors though

21:59 <lopex> kares[m]: it's kinda weird to learn english names for grammar in one's language

22:00 <rwilliams[m]> @lopex:matrix.org: this is rails/spring not the Java framework

22:00 <lopex> well, not grammar, linguistinc names

22:00 <lopex> rwilliams[m]: ah

22:01 <lopex> so an integration ?

22:01 <rwilliams[m]> Yeah

22:01 <rwilliams[m]> It just needs to be rebased on spring master cause it's like 3 years old

22:02 <lopex> yeah, but it still holds, since spring went annotations and then spring boot appeared, it was much less pita

22:02 <rwilliams[m]> <lopex "yeah, but it still holds, since "> Definitely

22:02 <lopex> rwilliams[m]: I think since then there will be too many breaking changes in spring though

22:05 <lopex> I guess it;s too much of a hassle to make jruby spring friendly

22:05 <lopex> too many mismatches in architecture

22:06 <lopex> It can be done, but, either as a component using a sinatra or any other micorframework

22:07 <lopex> or simply by embedding jruby in a spring app

22:15 <rwilliams[m]> lopex: Yeah

22:47 <lopex> rwilliams[m]: what I find terrible about spring is that plain old, but 'good api', takes less amount of effort than diving into spring configuration detail documentation

22:48 <lopex> even with spring boot

22:50 <lopex> and I assume, every new app in spring you copy more config code than in say haskell framework

22:51 <rwilliams[m]> lopex: gross

22:52 <lopex> but rails goes the same rail though