#jruby on 2015-01-16 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

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00:20 <headius> nirvdrum: meh

00:20 <headius> nirvdrum: and feh

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00:38 <headius> bbrowning_away: I may see a problem in ThreadFiber that could explain your issues

00:38 <headius> the initial pop, before the body executes, is done outside the exception-handling that propagates errors and shuts down the fiber properly

00:39 <headius> so if you created a fiber and it got interrupted before the body started running (like fiber.resume roughly concurrent with some interrupt) the fiber could go away without terminating the queues it uses

00:40 <headius> I know there's a better impl of this :-(

00:40 <headius> I will try this fix and see how it looks

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00:57 <travis-ci> jruby/jruby (master:5e4d7fc by Kevin Menard): The build was broken. (http://travis-ci.org/jruby/jruby/builds/47183220)

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00:59 <headius> that's a weird failure

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01:09 <headius> bleh

01:12 <headius> I need to go back to Fiber using lower-level JVM concurrency primitives and make Enumerator use Fiber

01:18 <headius> bbrowning_away: https://gist.github.com/headius/b2869b906306a834965d

01:18 <headius> that's against jruby-1_7 but the same change would apply to the 9k fiber impl

01:18 <nirvdrum> I'm looking at the build failures now.

01:18 <headius> nirvdrum: thanks

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01:19 <headius> dinnertime!

01:19 <nirvdrum> I think I see what failed. I'm a bit confused as to why.

01:20 <nirvdrum> Yeap, I made the change in the wrong spot.

01:20 <nirvdrum> Whoops.

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01:23 <JRubyGithub> [jruby] nirvdrum pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/9pNVBQ

01:23 <JRubyGithub> jruby/master acda7f1 Kevin Menard: Revert "[Truffle] Make the warning format match MRI and JRuby."...

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01:44 <travis-ci> jruby/jruby (master:bf361d9 by Kevin Menard): The build was broken. (http://travis-ci.org/jruby/jruby/builds/47186545)

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02:04 <travis-ci> jruby/jruby (master:6a96437 by Kevin Menard): The build was broken. (http://travis-ci.org/jruby/jruby/builds/47187749)

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02:31 <nirvdrum> headius: I don't think it's imperative that Truffle be all that useful for pre1. But one thing I just remembered is the stdlib splitting that chrisseaton did so people don't try to load libraries we don't yet support . . . those files aren't being packaged in the tarball.

02:32 <nirvdrum> I was hoping to catch mkristian. But he's been absent since the holidays.

02:33 <headius> nirvdrum: ahh yes

02:34 <headius> yeah hopefully he's back at it this week, because I saw some ocmments from him on issues

02:34 <headius> file an issue for anything you and chrisseaton think should happen for truffle before pre and final

02:37 <nirvdrum> headius: On that build breaking issue . . . I screwed up both in where I put the fix and in my commit message. I must've gotten in a bad state and didn't realize it. But, is there any reason not to have a colon after the line number in warning messages to match MRI?

02:38 <headius> no reason, no

02:38 <headius> where are you seeing that we don't have it though?

02:38 <nirvdrum> Okay. The test failure was in ScriptingContainerTest.

02:38 <headius> oh, hmm

02:38 <headius> I mean running jruby -v -e 1 produces a warning with -e:1

02:38 <nirvdrum> I think it was just consuming stderr. But wanted to make sure people weren't parsing it to the best of your knowledge.

02:38 <headius> nah

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02:38 <headius> nothing like that

02:39 <nirvdrum> MRI has a colon after the line number as well.

02:39 <nirvdrum> It's minor.

02:39 <headius> oh!

02:39 <headius> oh sure, that's fine to fix

02:39 <nirvdrum> I thought I was changing it just for Truffle. I changed it for both. But it caused a test failure due to a string comparison check.

02:39 <headius> so it was a good find anyway

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02:44 <JRubyGithub> [jruby] nirvdrum opened issue #2466: Package Truffle stdlib files into tarball http://git.io/CjJCTA

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02:51 <JRubyGithub> [jruby] nirvdrum pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/ZuwbBA

02:51 <JRubyGithub> jruby/master 83f055a Kevin Menard: Use a ':' after the line number in warnings to match MRI.

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02:51 <nirvdrum> I went through the travis failures from the last one and made sure to run those tasks locally. Hopefully it goes well this time.

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02:51 <travis-ci> jruby/jruby (master:acda7f1 by Kevin Menard): The build was fixed. (http://travis-ci.org/jruby/jruby/builds/47194930)

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02:52 <headius> nirvdrum: yeah probably will be fine :-) thank you

02:52 <nirvdrum> I get iffy when touching really old stuff. It's not clear what people are relying on.

02:53 <nirvdrum> And I can't tell if some things are just really old bugs or if they're deliberate and I lack the context.

02:53 <nirvdrum> So, thanks for bearing with me.

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02:54 <Aethenelle> anyone have an hfs+ volume refuse to mount before?

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02:56 <nirvdrum> Once, but I never figured out how to fix it.

02:57 <headius> Aethenelle: not permanently

02:58 <headius> and it was on a crufty system that had many other symptoms of something wrong

02:58 <Aethenelle> this is on an external drive that keeps getting pulled before the cache is written

02:59 <Aethenelle> which gets crazy huge for this drive

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03:00 <Aethenelle> ... i wonder if it'll let me mount the raw device...

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03:18 <Aethenelle> I may have messed up options in autofs.conf

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03:19 <travis-ci> jruby/jruby (master:83f055a by Kevin Menard): The build was fixed. (http://travis-ci.org/jruby/jruby/builds/47200136)

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03:26 <Aethenelle> I can mount the disk but now i need to figure out killing the read/write cache... I think I'm down to this nuke: fcntl(fd, F_GLOBAL_NOCACHE, 1);

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03:28 <headius> wow, what are you doing?

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03:34 <Aethenelle> i have a VM on an external drive. OSX's UBC is causing the drive to take ~10 min or so to eject

03:35 <Aethenelle> it's getting swapped out... on the train home i kept hitting purge regularly. Went to eject at 500MB inactive which immediately shot up to 4.5GB

03:37 <Aethenelle> the man page for mount and autofs.conf tell you the usual stuff like noasync or sync will work... they don't

03:38 <Aethenelle> ... i think it worked.... swap used and file cache are stable

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03:55 <JRubyGithub> [jruby] nirvdrum pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/YEPZnA

03:55 <JRubyGithub> jruby/master 715de42 Kevin Menard: [Truffle] Initial implementation of Regexp.{quote,escape}.

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03:56 <headius> oh, because it looks like one giant file to OS X?

03:56 <headius> probably impossible for it to guess what parts to cache and what not to

04:02 <Aethenelle> correct, so it just tries to cache the whole thing as it's read/written

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05:20 <purezen> Hi guys, I am keen to contribute to the Jruby project. What are the contrib. opportunities available? Thanks!

05:21 <headius> purezen: euros will do nicely

05:22 <headius> other than that, there's plenty of bugs and features that need help :-)

05:22 <purezen> headius: Ah, hehe!

05:22 <headius> easy way to find some would be to look at labels in github issues

05:22 <purezen> headius: Cool! Just needed some help getting started.

05:22 <headius> there's a beginner label with a few things on it I believe, and labels for 2.0+ compatibility

05:23 <headius> as far as getting a dev env set up, just clone and follow BUILDING.md

05:23 <headius> it's pretty easy

05:32 <headius> purezen: I have to get to sleep, but some EU folks will probably be "in the office" soon

05:32 <headius> ttfn

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05:33 <purezen> headius: Sure! See you around :)

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14:01 <JRubyGithub> [jruby] headius pushed 3 new commits to master: http://git.io/ZiD1Ig

14:01 <JRubyGithub> jruby/master 4881e35 Charles Oliver Nutter: Reinstate the IO.popen4 pandora's box.

14:01 <JRubyGithub> jruby/master 4b89ab9 Charles Oliver Nutter: Use a different exception for Enumerator termination....

14:01 <JRubyGithub> jruby/master 68d281e Charles Oliver Nutter: Bump to release version 9.0.0.0.pre1.

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14:15 <nirvdrum> Howdy.

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14:15 <nirvdrum> tenderlove: Whenever you get a free minute, tagging the psych 2.0.9 and 2.0.10 releases would be appreciated.

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14:15 <nirvdrum> I guess I broke him.

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14:17 <travis-ci> jruby/jruby (master:68d281e by Charles Oliver Nutter): The build was broken. (http://travis-ci.org/jruby/jruby/builds/47245796)

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14:19 <headius> I can take 2.0.10 at least

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14:21 <headius> nirvdrum: I figured them out, all set

14:21 <nirvdrum> Thanks.

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14:34 <brocktimus> tenderlove seems pretty fail-y at IRC right about now :P

14:35 <cpuguy83> oo, did the first pre-release just hit?

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14:36 <bbrowning> headius: are there jruby-dist artifacts of 9k published somewhere?

14:37 <bbrowning> SNAPSHOT, I guess?

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14:40 <headius> yeah, try ci.jruby.org/snapshots/9000.html

14:40 <headius> that should be up to date as of last night

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14:40 <bbrowning> cool

14:40 <bbrowning> headius: hmm - I need something maven-consumable though

14:41 <headius> oh hmm

14:41 <headius> we haven't published snapshots but we could try today

14:41 <bbrowning> I can just build locally, but it looked like I'll first need to build a few other -SNAPSHOT deps first?

14:41 <headius> hmm, I don't think so, we tried to get all snapshots recently

14:42 <headius> released recently, I mean

14:42 <bbrowning> hmm

14:42 <headius> what are you seeing?

14:43 <bbrowning> The following artifacts could not be resolved: rubygems:jruby-readline:gem:1.0.dev-SNAPSHOT, rubygems:jruby-ripper:gem:2.1.0.dev-SNAPSHOT

14:44 <bbrowning> oh hold on - I was on my 'master' not 'upstream-master' branch, whatever the diff is

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14:44 <bbrowning> the diff is me having stupid branch names, I guess :)

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14:46 <bbrowning> hmm even on the latest I'm still seeing it look for those -SNAPSHOT deps

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14:47 <bbrowning> https://github.com/jruby/jruby/blob/master/lib/pom.rb#L24 still references them

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14:51 <nirvdrum> headius: I just ran the nightly against mogotest and the JVM doesn't seem to crash any longer.

14:52 <nirvdrum> But permgen is still a problem.

14:52 <headius> bbrowning: oh ok

14:52 <headius> bbrowning: those build in the build

14:52 <headius> they're part of this repo

14:53 <bbrowning> oh - so I must be building wrong then

14:53 <headius> nirvdrum: how much of a problem? I'm surprised

14:53 <headius> the new JIT shouldn't use any more permgen than the old one and just having more classes in the jar wouldn't explain it

14:53 <nirvdrum> I'm trying to work that out. The standard profiling tools don't make permgen inspection all that easy.

14:54 <nirvdrum> On the general memory front, 58% of my heap is just IRMethod.

14:54 <headius> it should show in visualvm

14:54 <nirvdrum> That's 249MB.

14:54 <headius> that must be retained size

14:54 <nirvdrum> Yeah.

14:54 <headius> get a heap dump at peak if you can

14:54 <nirvdrum> Sorry.

14:54 <nirvdrum> I have the JVM dumping at OOM.

14:55 <headius> oh nice, zip one of those up and put it somewhere I can get it

14:55 <nirvdrum> Since this is my test suite and it naturally exits 2 minutes after starting, it's a bit of a hard one to measure at steady state.

14:55 <headius> yeah

14:55 <headius> is it actually permgen running out?

14:56 <headius> that should only fill up with classes and I wouldn't expect most code to even JIT during a test run

14:56 <headius> something's up

14:56 <nirvdrum> "Java::JavaLang::OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space"

14:56 <headius> bizarre

14:56 <nirvdrum> Unless that can come up in other ways.

14:56 <headius> not really

14:56 <headius> classes largely

14:56 <nirvdrum> There were 14K+ loaded classes. Not sure if that's normal or not.

14:57 <bbrowning> headius: I can't figure out the magic build incantation to get ripper and readline to build

14:57 <bbrowning> running "mvn -Pbootstrap clean package", which looks like what travis runs, still complains about ripper and readline

14:57 <headius> bbrowning: mvn install from root doesn't do it all?

14:57 <headius> hmm

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14:57 <bbrowning> nope - mvn install was the first thing I tried

14:57 <headius> I'll try locally, maybe something got goofed up with the version bump

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14:59 <mkristian> readline and ripper are looked up from sonatype - to build them locally you need to "cd ext; mvn clean install@

15:00 <bbrowning> I need a special settings.xml for them to get picked up from sonatype?

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15:00 <mkristian> no we always look snapshots up on sonatype

15:01 <nirvdrum> He lives!

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15:01 <bbrowning> huh - that seems busted for me

15:01 <headius> nirvdrum: 14k doesn't look like so many overall

15:01 <headius> mkristian: hi there!

15:01 <mkristian> hi all !

15:01 <headius> I was going to ping you today...we are shooting for pre1 on monday

15:02 <bbrowning> mkristian: I can't 'mvn install' inside ext/

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15:02 <headius> I bumped version using dump_poms but two of "your" builds failed and I can't see why :-(

15:02 <bbrowning> Non-resolvable parent POM: Failure to find org.jruby:jruby-parent:pom:9.0.0.0.dev-SNAPSHOT

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15:02 <headius> bbrowning: ah-ha

15:02 <headius> so the pom there didn't update right

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15:02 <mkristian> yes, they don't

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15:03 <bbrowning> headius: ahh I see you mean the version change in ext/pom.xml?

15:03 <headius> mkristian: it looks like the version numbers updated weird...most are .pre1 but some are .pre1-SNAPSHOT and some are still .dev-SNAPSHOT even

15:04 <headius> mkristian: I can fix them manually but I guess the .rb poms aren't all right

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15:04 <headius> mvn install -Dinvoker.skip=false

15:04 <headius> oops

15:04 <headius> https://gist.github.com/4065b60bde36a4f1c1ba

15:05 <mkristian> headius, but we want to have this "version" dump work for the next releases

15:05 <headius> bbrowning: one sec

15:05 <headius> definitely

15:05 <headius> I was going to ping you mostly because we'll be verifying dist build of pre1 looks right today

15:05 <headius> or I will, anyway

15:06 <headius> oh heh

15:07 <headius> this must be why jruby-jars failed

15:07 <cpuguy83> headius: Would be really awesome if those jruby snapshot filenames were tagged in some way to denote a version (like pre1, or a short git hash or something)

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15:08 <cpuguy83> Would love to provide test images on DockerHub for these, but if it's always pulling form the same URL, the builder just uses what's cached locally

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15:09 <JRubyGithub> [jruby] headius pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/hIkjGw

15:09 <JRubyGithub> jruby/master 7972c8b Charles Oliver Nutter: Fix versions missed by dump_poms.

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15:09 <mkristian> headius, there are the ext - poms and the jruby-jars which are strange. the ext are actually gems and how much are they going to be BOUND to a jruby version ?

15:09 <headius> cpuguy83: was it you that asked about having historic nightly builds available?

15:09 <cpuguy83> headius: Nope

15:10 <headius> cpuguy83: which jruby snapshot filenames do you mean? on the 9000.html page?

15:10 <cpuguy83> headius: yep

15:10 <headius> the filename is set by maven, but we could add a git hash or something

15:10 <headius> the 9000 page was lovingly hand-crafted by me, so we'd need a better snapshot index

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15:11 <cpuguy83> I was building from git, but found that after a week or even less, the extra artifacts maven needs to pull were gone and it wouldn't build.

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15:13 <bbrowning> headius: yay! that let me build ext/ which then let jruby itself build

15:13 <headius> cpuguy83: oh! you mean snapshots we depend on

15:13 <headius> that happens occasionally, but we got bad for a while about depending on a lot of snapshots

15:13 <headius> if you see a snapshot go missing let us know, because many times we'll have them cached locally and not notice :-(

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15:13 <cpuguy83> headius: Yep, I would have a git hash checked out, build today it's fine, build same hash in a week and it would break.

15:13 <headius> bbrowning: ok...may fix travis too

15:14 <nirvdrum> headius: I did two dumps, with reification and one without. I'm not sure which would be easier. But both OOM'd on permgen.

15:14 <nirvdrum> https://www.dropbox.com/s/czhisodpcx6mhxs/java_pid22154-non-reified.hprof.bz2?dl=0

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15:14 <headius> cpuguy83: I think you just got lucky...the snapshots live on a sonatype server for quite a while

15:14 <nirvdrum> https://www.dropbox.com/s/yqpz55dlsvysh7a/java_pid23786-reified.hprof.bz2?dl=0

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15:14 <headius> but if we release non-snapshot the snapshot gets pulled, so there can be a lag time in there before we update dependencies

15:14 <mkristian> cpuguy83, headius sonatype deletes the snapshot once the it got released

15:14 <headius> nirvdrum: oh you run with reification? that would generate more classes for sure

15:15 <nirvdrum> headius: Yeah. I usually run with it on because it makes heap analysis easier. But I ran into the same issue even with it off.

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15:15 <headius> ok

15:16 <headius> if you can get a dump with 1.7 that would be great too

15:16 <headius> I have those two now, thanks

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15:19 <headius> cpuguy83: let me know if that happens again

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15:19 <cpuguy83> headius: sure.

15:19 <headius> actually, file a bug

15:20 <headius> mkristian: sorry, missed your question...at the moment we have no plans to release readline or ripper separately

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15:20 <headius> we'd probably only do that if MRI released them separately, because it doesn't gain us anything otherwise

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15:21 <headius> btw, I would like to get our psych impl into the psych gem before 9k final

15:22 <mkristian> I can do the psych gem. but in general about those gems: currently the build depends on snapshot gems from sonatype - for the release I feel it should depend on released gems at least from maven-central - no need publish them on rubygems.org

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15:22 <mkristian> but at least we get reproducible builds for released versions of jruby

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15:23 <JRubyGithub> [jruby] rkelly34 opened issue #2467: NoMethodError "join", with Padrino and Warbler http://git.io/nZybJQ

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15:24 <headius> mkristian: I have *most* of the work done for psych gem in psych repo jruby branch

15:25 <mkristian> ok

15:25 <headius> I mention it mostly for information or if you want to help, because it will need to fit psych build pattern (not using maven, maybe rake-compiler)

15:25 <headius> mostly it gets it out of our project and into the canonical gem, which is a good thing

15:26 <mkristian> let me see

15:28 <headius> just seems like it would be best to do it before 9k so we know it works 100% as a gem

15:28 <bbrowning> hmm - "Failed to execute goal de.saumya.mojo:gem-maven-plugin:1.0.2:initialize (install-component-rubygem-dependencies) on project torquebox-modules-parent: error in executing jruby: loading resource from classloader failed: META-INF/jruby.home/bin/gem -> [Help 1]"

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15:28 <bbrowning> first of probably many failures trying to get TB3 building w/ 9k again :/

15:28 <headius> hmm, looks like we lost our in-jar bins?

15:29 <headius> bbrowning: using which dist artifact?

15:29 <bbrowning> or maybe I built it wrong? let me look

15:29 <projectodd-ci> Project jruby-master-test-jruby build #398: FAILURE in 34 min: https://projectodd.ci.cloudbees.com/job/jruby-master-test-jruby/398/

15:29 <bbrowning> I don't think it's specifically using a dist artifact here - just using gem-maven-plugin to run some stuff

15:30 <bbrowning> I guess that uses a jruby dist artifact, but I'm not sure which

15:30 <mkristian> gem-maven-plugin uses jruby-complete (usually)

15:31 <nirvdrum> headius: Any recommendations on how to capture what you want in 1.7? It doesn't OOM so I won't be able to get it at the same point in time.

15:31 <bbrowning> my built jruby-complete.jar does contain a bin/gem

15:31 <bbrowning> so it's not missing at least

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15:34 <headius> hmmm

15:34 <headius> nirvdrum: oh hmm

15:35 <headius> yeah there's no dump-on-exit I don't think

15:35 <headius> nirvdrum: put a "gets" in the last test to run? :-)

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15:36 <headius> mkristian: you say usually...what else might it use?

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15:36 <headius> and does it use complete from the same build or a specific complete from maven central?

15:37 <mkristian> headius, when the pom.xml has a dependency to jruby artifact it will use this

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15:37 <mkristian> the jruby version can be set on the gem-maven-plugin either via the system property jruby.version or via the config

15:38 <mkristian> with jrubyVersion

15:38 <bbrowning> so it should be using 9k, which is good

15:39 <headius> well it's definitely not there in the normal jruby.jar

15:39 <headius> but I'm not sure it should be either

15:39 <mkristian> but the difference between jruby-complete and jruby artifact is not so big, it looks on classloader to find META-INF/jruby.home/bin/gem

15:39 <bbrowning> I'll mvn -X and try to get more useful info

15:39 <headius> bbrowning: thank you

15:39 <headius> still waiting for my version-fixed build to start

15:39 <mkristian> no the jruby jar from lib/ is the jruby-core which has no META-INF/jruby.home

15:40 <headius> mkristian: yeah that seems right to me

15:40 <headius> just wondering if the plugin is picking up that jar form instead of one that has jruby.home in it

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15:41 <bbrowning> haha looks like this error is the result of me typing "9.0.0.pre1" vs "9.0.0.0.pre1" in my TB3 pom.xml

15:42 <bbrowning> -X shows me it's looking for a 9.0.0.pre1 complete jar and oops

15:42 <mkristian> :)

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15:43 <headius> hahah

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15:44 <headius> maybe we should drop the last .0 :-)

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15:44 <enebo> yeah perhaps so since I expect many people will do that

15:44 <enebo> 9k is sort of our codename now I guess :)

15:44 <mkristian> headius, where did the jruby-jars-9.0.0.0.pre1-SNAPSHOT bite ? it is only name of the file in work directory

15:44 <headius> right

15:44 <headius> mkristian: see my gist

15:44 <headius> jruby-jars had a couple places that left snapshot on

15:45 <headius> oh bite?

15:45 <headius> I dunno...jruby-jars failed on travis but I don't know if that was related

15:45 <headius> it probably was

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15:57 <enebo> mkristian: I am going to try running a dist build on 9k as a dry-run for pre today

15:57 <nirvdrum> headius: https://www.dropbox.com/s/6bxtukezjebbmqn/jruby_1-7.bin.bz2?dl=0

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16:02 <mkristian> headius, again my thing with the gems in ext/ - either we had some remarks on how to build the SNAPSHOTS or just release them along with jruby to maven-central

16:04 <headius> nirvdrum: thank you

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16:04 <nirvdrum> Let me know if you need anything else.

16:04 <headius> enebo: I bumped versions and fixed a couple that were missed

16:04 <nirvdrum> Hopefully it stands out to you or enebo.

16:04 <headius> mkristian: at least for pre1 let's do whatever's simplest

16:05 <headius> or perhaps you just mean for local dev

16:05 <enebo> ripper is confusing as a gem

16:05 <enebo> It is for 1.9 on 1.7 and 2.2 on 9k

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16:06 <headius> I guess the gem versions would be 1.7ish and 9.0ish, no?

16:06 <mkristian> it has the version 2.1.0-SNAPSHOT

16:06 <headius> but yeah I'm trying to remember why we thought we should move ripper to a separate artifact

16:07 <enebo> headius: but that means gem update if we ever do make as a gem will grab 9k one for both

16:07 <headius> mkristian: that makes sense actually...the version should reflect what Ruby version it supports I suppose

16:07 <enebo> headius: since it is not a gem release perhaps it does not matter

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16:07 <headius> enebo: if it were a gem release yeah that would be a problem

16:07 <headius> mkristian: do you see any value in having these released as separate artifacts right now?

16:08 <mkristian> no - only more work for the build

16:09 <headius> if we were being consistent, all the stdlib exts would be released as separate artifacts

16:09 <headius> I'm just not sure it gains us much

16:09 <headius> openssl makes sense because it has to iterate a lot more

16:09 <nirvdrum> ripper was originally a gem, so maybe that's why.

16:09 <headius> for MRI?

16:09 <enebo> 1.8 ripper is a gem

16:09 <nirvdrum> https://rubygems.org/gems/ripper

16:09 <headius> oh right

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16:10 <headius> but they don't release it as a gem now, do they?

16:10 <mkristian> openssl is a default gem. the ripper and readline is gem which just gets included into the stdlib

16:10 <headius> heh, I guess not

16:10 <nirvdrum> The last release was 3+ years ago. I guess not.

16:10 <headius> mkristian: I think we don't want to release them separately right now

16:11 <headius> we can revisit once there's a good reason to do it

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16:11 <travis-ci> jruby/jruby (master:7972c8b by Charles Oliver Nutter): The build has errored. (http://travis-ci.org/jruby/jruby/builds/47255290)

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16:11 <mkristian> so I conclude, that running -Pbootstrap just build those gems from filesystem and we leave the whole sonatype snapshots out away

16:11 <headius> mkristian: I agree

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16:12 <bbrowning> jruby 9k has newer rubygems, right? I feel like I'm seeing the same build issues I saw when 1.7.x was temporarily updated to newer rubygems

16:12 <headius> looks like 2.4.4

16:12 <headius> which one had the breakage?

16:12 <bbrowning> 2.4.something, I think

16:13 <bbrowning> I think there was a commit made to 1.7 to workaround this - perhaps it never made it to 9k

16:13 <headius> bleah, I need someone to review ThreadGroup.list and tell me if it looks like it could ever deadlock

16:13 <headius> because it's sporadically hanging in RubySpec

16:13 <headius> bbrowning: I'll investigate

16:15 <headius> bbrowning: I just see enebo's revert

16:15 <bbrowning> the error I'm getting in TB3 build is "Gem::LoadError: Could not find 'builder' (= 3.0.0) among 37 total gem(s)" when builder is 100% definitely a gem

16:15 <bbrowning> I remember having this problem w/ newer rubygems before - I'll dig up IRC logs to see how it was fixed

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16:15 <headius> hmm

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16:17 <bbrowning> yeah I hit this exact same problem on 1.7 w/ RG 2.4.x :)

16:18 <bbrowning> and apparently I was able to workaround it in TB build itself, since we use the RG API directly

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16:21 <JRubyGithub> [jruby] jeremyevans opened issue #2468: Some Java modules do not respond_to name http://git.io/GdK2ug

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16:24 <headius> bbrowning: ok, what's the issue again?

16:25 <headius> I have forgotten already

16:25 <bbrowning> headius: I found my workaround - looks like just our usage of the rubygems API directly

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16:25 <bbrowning> RG has changed enough that trying to load a gem then installing it via RG API then loading it doesn't seem to work like it used to

16:26 <bbrowning> not really your issue :)

16:26 <bbrowning> there were other RG issues around jruby extensions and absolute paths but a commit was made to fix that

16:27 <bbrowning> (in jruby)

16:28 <headius> bbrowning: in RG right? I'm trying to find it

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16:28 <headius> the commit that fixed stuff

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16:29 <bbrowning> headius: this is the 1.7 commit - https://github.com/jruby/jruby/commit/a0624ee19abc1db3a30ede0caf50416ebc9f204d

16:29 <headius> huh, popen4 spec failed on cloudbees?

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16:29 <bbrowning> looks like it made it to master as well

16:29 <headius> that's weird

16:29 <headius> bbrowning: OH right

16:29 <headius> that thing

16:30 <headius> and we were going to update RG again after that but forgot

16:30 <headius> I'm going to update it on both branches

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16:30 <bbrowning> so RG did something to fix this?

16:30 <headius> I'll talk to drbrain today

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16:31 <temporalfox> hi all, I'm working on jruby support for Vert.x 3

16:31 <headius> temporalfox: hi there!

16:32 <temporalfox> headius hi

16:32 <temporalfox> is it the right place to ask question ?

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16:32 <bbrowning> temporalfox: yep ask away

16:32 <temporalfox> thanks

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16:33 <temporalfox> I'm trying to see I could programatically configure the gem path of a ScriptingContainer

16:34 <temporalfox> s/to see/to see if

16:34 <temporalfox> when vertx is run from the command line, it would be good to be able to configure this per verticle

16:35 <headius> temporalfox: at the moment that's done via env vars only but this has been requested before

16:35 <temporalfox> ok, so there is nothing I can do at the moment, except monkey patch the ENV class

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16:36 <headius> at the moment...if you want to dig into where RG looks that up we could work together on something better

16:36 <temporalfox> I don't know if it makes sense or not

16:36 <headius> it does

16:36 <temporalfox> the use case would be to run a packaged verticle deployed as a ruby gem

16:37 <headius> I think we should actually have a RubyInstanceConfig gem home

16:37 <headius> and modify RG to check our home rather than just env

16:37 <temporalfox> RG means ?

16:37 <headius> rubygems

16:37 <headius> rubygems itself

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16:37 <temporalfox> ok

16:38 <temporalfox> we are targetting a few scenario for running vertx

16:38 <temporalfox> embedded / fatjar

16:38 <bbrowning> you can set that ENV variable per scripting container though, right?

16:38 <bbrowning> no need to monkey patch anything?

16:38 <temporalfox> vertx.sh command line (the one I'm talking about now)

16:38 <headius> bbrowning: at the moment they all load from System

16:38 <temporalfox> bbrowning I can try that

16:38 <temporalfox> bbrowning I thought it was a proxy to System

16:38 <temporalfox> bbrowning if that's a copy then it's fine

16:38 <headius> I'm pretty sure you can't force anything into ruby ENV unless you have it set in real env

16:39 <headius> bbrowning: oh!

16:39 <temporalfox> bbrowning I can updating it before running the verticle

16:39 <headius> temporalfox: you could set it on boot

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16:39 <travis-ci> jruby/jruby (master:7972c8b by Charles Oliver Nutter): The build was fixed. (http://travis-ci.org/jruby/jruby/builds/47255290)

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16:39 <temporalfox> headius boot time will be too late

16:39 <headius> you'd have to run with rubygems disabled, set it into ENV (copied locally to the runtime), and then load rg yourself

16:39 <temporalfox> headius also there would be several differnet verticle loaded also in the same JVM with different configs

16:40 <temporalfox> headius ok I see more or less

16:40 <headius> sure, how you get the config in there doesn't matter as long as you fix up the current container's ENV before RG boots

16:40 <headius> we should still improve this though

16:40 <bbrowning> huh - I didn't realize ScriptingContainer had this limitation

16:40 <bbrowning> in torquebox we boot instances directly, passing in a RubyInstanceConfig

16:40 <headius> bbrowning: just an oversight for years, I guess

16:41 <temporalfox> I can see public void setEnvironment(Map newEnvironment) on RubyInstanceConfig

16:41 <temporalfox> is it the kind of stuff I could use ?

16:41 <headius> probably if you can get that into the container

16:41 <headius> I guess I forgot about that

16:41 <headius> you'll have to assemble it yourself

16:42 <bbrowning> and container.setEnvironment is too late?

16:42 <headius> bbrowning: probably...JRuby + RG have booted by then

16:42 <headius> but they init lazy in some cases so I'm not sure

16:42 <bbrowning> ahh - they boot as soon as you instantiate the container?

16:42 <headius> unsure

16:42 <headius> some things trigger it to boot

16:42 <headius> worth trying either way

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16:43 <temporalfox> I will try

16:43 <temporalfox> in scripting container I can see

16:43 <temporalfox> public List<String> getLoadPaths() {

16:43 <temporalfox> return provider.getRubyInstanceConfig().getLoadPaths();

16:43 <temporalfox> }

16:43 <temporalfox> which means I can get the config with more or less hacks

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16:44 <temporalfox> and see if updating it before running does something or not

16:44 <headius> bbrowning: did you see my fiber patch last night?

16:44 <bbrowning> headius: I did not

16:44 <bbrowning> I think tenderlove's joining and parting scrolled everything else off my buffer

16:44 <temporalfox> other question : does it make sense to deploy vertx in rubygems.org ?

16:45 <temporalfox> I can see there a few gems that contain java related things

16:45 <temporalfox> like activerecord / jdbc

16:45 <headius> http://irclog.whitequark.org/jruby/2015-01-16#1421368712-1421371108;

16:45 <headius> temporalfox: deploying a vertx gem is by far the best way to get rubyists to try it

16:45 <headius> if it's not a gem chances are it doesn't exist for them

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16:47 <JRubyGithub> [jruby] headius pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/hFHyYA

16:47 <JRubyGithub> jruby/master 95ab70e Charles Oliver Nutter: Update to RubyGems 2.4.5.

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16:47 <temporalfox> headius so that would be a gem that only works with jruby and rubygems.org is fine accepting such gem ?

16:47 <bbrowning> headius: I'll try that patch out after I play w/ 9k and TB3 a bit more

16:47 <bbrowning> temporalfox: there are lots of jruby-only gems on rubygems.org - it's fine :)

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16:48 <temporalfox> thanks all for the answers :-)

16:48 <temporalfox> I'll try to make some progress on this

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16:48 <JRubyGithub> [jruby] headius pushed 1 new commit to jruby-1_7: http://git.io/vdQXkA

16:48 <JRubyGithub> jruby/jruby-1_7 7765f9e Charles Oliver Nutter: Update to RubyGems 2.4.5.

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16:48 <headius> temporalfox: feel free to file bugs for anything that feels hacky

16:48 <headius> and definitely file something about per-instance gem home

16:48 <headius> the env hacks all suck

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16:49 <temporalfox> headius I'll keep in touch with the jruby community :-)

16:50 <temporalfox> and get feedback / improvements done on both sides

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16:51 <bbrowning> headius: ahh so the 9k TB3 integ test issue come down to having to update various gems that don't work w/ ruby 2.2

16:51 <bbrowning> several that uses iconv but don't have an iconv gem dep, for instance

16:51 <bbrowning> if I can get everything updated hopefully I can get the tests to at least run

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16:55 <headius> bbrowning: ah-ha

16:55 <headius> iconv dep would be bad anyway since that's a C ext

16:55 <headius> we had our own iconv but I think that live needs to just die

16:55 <headius> lib

16:56 <headius> temporalfox: thanks, and welcome to the team :-)

16:57 <headius> enebo: it would be painful to release this and use it in pre1, right? https://github.com/jnr/jffi/pull/13

16:57 <purezen> Guys, I want to start contributing to jruby. Would like to know how to get started. Am looking to begin with https://github.com/jruby/jruby/issues/2418 .

16:57 <headius> note that's jffi, so everything would have to spin

16:58 <purezen> Have cloned the repo and executed mvn successfully.

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16:58 <headius> purezen: original reporter agreed that one's an impl detail

16:58 <headius> check the "beginner" tag and if there's nothing there we'll find something for you :-)

16:59 <purezen> headius: Hmm.. ok.

16:59 <enebo> headius: yeah somewhat painful

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17:00 <JRubyGithub> [jruby] headius closed issue #2418: Float#equal? behaves differently from MRI in 2.0 mode http://git.io/ejtCow

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17:00 <headius> purezen: sorry, I hadn't noticed that one could be closed

17:00 <temporalfox> so I've been able to work this GEM_PATH out :-)

17:00 <enebo> headius: I mean definitely painful :) I guess updating a zillion poms is one issue but I am hoping this seemingly correct fix will uncover something unexpected

17:01 <headius> temporalfox: nice!

17:01 <temporalfox> RubyInstanceConfig config = container.getProvider().getRubyInstanceConfig();

17:01 <temporalfox> Map newEnv = new HashMap(config.getEnvironment());

17:01 <temporalfox> config.setEnvironment(newEnv);

17:01 <temporalfox> then

17:01 <temporalfox> container.getEnvironment().put("GEM_PATH", "/Library/Ruby/Gems/2.0.0");

17:01 <purezen> headius: Np :)

17:01 <enebo> headius: I would like to uncover that sooner than later but doing it a work day before releasing does sort of put the experiment out there in a big way :)

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17:01 <temporalfox> and I could require my gem

17:01 <headius> enebo: ok, I don't think we have to do it now, but it should probably be in .19 and 9k final

17:01 <headius> temporalfox: a good start :-)

17:02 <temporalfox> headius yes, thanks for pointing in the good direction

17:02 <enebo> headius: yeah I agree. I just would like local/closer users hitting it a couple of weeks before it gets general release

17:02 <temporalfox> you and bbrowning

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17:02 <headius> enebo: I guess I need something to do today

17:02 <headius> it could be jrubyc or it could be releasing some libs

17:02 <enebo> headius: I did think of something

17:02 <headius> or it could be playing Ducktales

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17:03 <enebo> headius: figuring out what is missing API-wise from 2.2

17:03 <headius> lopex: do you still have that script?

17:03 <headius> enebo: good idea

17:03 <headius> for release notes/blog

17:03 <headius> refinements landing or not?

17:03 <lopex> headius: no idea

17:04 <enebo> headius: we may already have it all but I don’t know. I tried to make a script for this a few months ago and we have like 78 differences but I am not sure I have that script anymore either :)

17:04 <enebo> it was mostly rearranging equals and things like that

17:04 <lopex> headius: maybe there should be something akin quickcheck :)

17:04 <enebo> lopex: did you just turn scottish?

17:05 <purezen> Well, how about this https://github.com/jruby/jruby/issues/2323 ?

17:05 <headius> I did see Enumerator#feed

17:06 <headius> probably just inserts values ahead of next one

17:06 <headius> unsure though

17:06 <lopex> @check \s -> ((reverse . reverse) $ s) == s

17:06 <multibot_> +++ OK, passed 100 tests.

17:06 <lopex> enebo: ^^

17:06 <lopex> random feeding given invariant

17:08 <purezen> headius:

17:08 <lopex> headius: afaik the script only checked visibilit, arity and names

17:09 <enebo> lopex: which is a lot :)

17:10 <lopex> enebo: at smoe point I wanted to feed it with random vars and types to check agains all kinds of exceptions it responded with

17:10 <enebo> mri minitest has been a lot better about tests for new features so we can also examine tags

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17:12 <headius> lopex: I'm just writing a quick ObjectSpace script to do this

17:13 <lopex> headius: hmm, cannot find it, google say it's from 2007

17:13 <lopex> *says

17:14 <chrisseaton> eregon was working on something like that for us

17:16 <lopex> ifonly I remembered how it's named

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17:17 <headius> https://gist.github.com/headius/0190d0218ae7e3c85928

17:18 <headius> that's just public methods on all Module descendants, diffing MRI to JRuby

17:18 <headius> some of the output is a little weird but I think it works

17:19 <lopex> headius: some mri api internals leaked too afaik

17:19 <lopex> into OS

17:19 <headius> I'm sure

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17:19 <headius> they do have a separate ext for some of that

17:19 <lopex> and singletons were some issue too

17:19 <headius> objspace

17:20 <lopex> but now there is a flag in the allocator

17:20 <headius> enebo: we're just looking for big items I assume

17:20 <lopex> in 2.2 and maybe earlier

17:20 <enebo> I did a const_get script when I did it

17:20 <headius> not individual methods

17:20 <enebo> then reflectiveely called methods on each one and descended

17:20 <enebo> not sure if they exposed too little or too much

17:21 <enebo> headius: well possibly individual methods if it is simple or exposes some set of changes

17:21 <enebo> headius: I know hash and equals moved around and I think we did fix some of those

17:22 <headius> I'll review this and take notes

17:22 <enebo> afk a few

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17:31 <tarcieri> | |_ | |_) || || | | |/ _ \\ V /| | | |

17:31 <tarcieri> | _| | _ < | || |_| / ___ \| | |_|_|_|

17:31 <tarcieri> |_| |_| \_\___|____/_/ \_\_| (_|_|_)

17:31 <tarcieri>

17:32 <headius> enebo: I'm fixing trivial ones

17:32 <headius> you can review the commit

17:32 <headius> well anyone can review the commit

17:32 <headius> once I do it

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17:48 <headius> heh: GC::verify_internal_consistency

17:48 <headius> such methods would give me concerns about trusting MRI

17:48 <asarih> Friday!!

17:51 <lopex> headius: Object::stable_runtime

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17:53 <headius> lopex: hah

17:53 <lopex> https://vine.co/v/OjqeYWWpVWK - yet they said it was foggy night

17:59 <purezen> How do I proceed to testing a file in spec/regression? I have cloned the jruby repo and ran mvn fine till now.

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17:59 <headius> purezen: rspec <filename> should work

17:59 <headius> mvn -Pbootstrap installs rspec and other dev dependencies

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18:01 <purezen> headius: Ok. Running the mvn command. Though, how do I use jruby instead of my system ruby (managed by rbenv).

18:02 <purezen> I could not find 'rvm use system''s alternative in rbenv.

18:02 <headius> purezen: generally just put it in PATH

18:02 <headius> and make sure you don't have GEM env vars pointing at your other install

18:02 <headius> rbenv probably has a way to work with a local build of a Ruby too, I don't know

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18:03 <purezen> Ok, I shall look into it.

18:03 <headius> enebo: MRI moved callcc to their continuation ext too

18:03 <headius> it appears

18:03 <headius> I'm thinking I'll just delete it

18:04 <headius> we only support delimited continuations anyway, which you can just do with catch/throw

18:04 <purezen> Will, ./bin/jruby rspec <filename> shall be good?

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18:04 <headius> purezen: jruby -S rspec will pick it up from jruby's bin

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18:04 <enebo> headius: heh

18:05 <headius> fine for now, but I'd still recommend adding to PATH because there are a few tests that expect it

18:05 <headius> I've fixed about a dozen minor differences so far

18:05 <enebo> headius: maybe some day it will be jettisoned to an external gem

18:05 <headius> mostly methods that no longer exist (and I confirm they actually don't exist)

18:05 <purezen> headius: Ok. Am on it.

18:05 <enebo> cool

18:05 <headius> I'm not doing any big changes

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18:06 <JRubyGithub> jruby/master 2bf79e0 Thomas E. Enebo: Eradicate static final of TRUE and FALSE lest we be tempted again

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18:10 <headius> huh, KeyError

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18:13 <bbrowning> headius: it will probably take me a few days at least to get TB3 integs mostly running on 9k :/

18:14 <bbrowning> keep hitting various little things - latest one related to some changes in how classloading works, I guess?

18:14 <bbrowning> java.lang.LinkageError: loader constraint violation: loader (instance of org/jruby/util/JRubyClassLoader) previously initiated loading for a different type with name "javax/transaction/TransactionManager"

18:15 <bbrowning> tons of things like that - in all my apps it appears

18:15 <bbrowning> not always just TransactionManager

18:15 <headius> bbrowning: anything classloader related should probably go to mkristian

18:15 <bbrowning> loader constraint violation in interface itable initialization: when resolving method "org.apache.xerces.parsers.AbstractSAXParser.setEntityResolver(Lorg/xml/sax/EntityResolver;)V" the class loader (instance of org/jruby/util/JRubyClassLoader) of the current class, org/apache/xerces/parsers/AbstractSAXParser, and the class loader (instance of <bootloader>) for interface org/xml/sax/Parser have different Class objects for the type rg/xml/sax/En

18:15 <bbrowning> tityResolver;)V used in the signature

18:16 <headius> yeah I was worried about this

18:16 <headius> mkristian: 9k loads from self classloader first and 1.7 does not, right?

18:16 <headius> I forget if we made that change in both places or not

18:16 <mkristian> right

18:16 <bbrowning> oh it inverted the default java classloading relationship?

18:16 <headius> mkristian: that seems suspect :-(

18:16 <headius> bbrowning: yeah

18:18 <bbrowning> why? it's liable to break lots of java extensions, at a minimum

18:20 <headius> mkristian: I believe it was for isolating one runtime's exts from another's

18:20 <headius> oops, bbrowning

18:20 <mkristian> hmm - so I have to speak up now ;)

18:20 <headius> mkristian: yeah, these look like classloader issues related to self-first

18:20 <headius> please do speak up :-)

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18:21 <donV> Hi all!

18:21 <mkristian> yes, the idea was to do it similar as the webapp classloader - well they do have an option to switch back and forth

18:23 <mkristian> the intention was to separate those jars coming from the gems to the underlying classloader. since you never know which jars are loaded when and if they conflict with the one which come along side jruby itself

18:24 <mkristian> my focus was/is on embedded jruby which runs in bigger java application

18:24 <bbrowning> but this also now creates conflict if any gem packages a jar that the java app already uses?

18:24 <bbrowning> I think that's what's happening - some gem is bringing in xerces and the java container already provides xerces

18:24 <bbrowning> so instead of it just using xerces from the parent classloader it tries to use the one in the child and things break

18:26 <mkristian> why does it necessarily break ?

18:26 <bbrowning> I'm not saying that it has to break - just doing my best to observe how it has broken

18:27 <bbrowning> in my case, it's some gem that packages up htmlunit used for TB3 testing

18:27 <mkristian> SAXParserFactory is registered statically in java.xml class as far I remember

18:30 <mkristian> and classes from java package are loaded from the bootclassloader - correct ? well I see no way in such case to "fix" this but to switch back to the old behaviour

18:30 <mkristian> what about a switch, to choice the behaviour like servlet containers do ?

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18:32 <mkristian> there are also case where the problem is the otherway around, where the underlying classpath has incompatible jar for a particular gem

18:32 <mkristian> I think both cases are viable

18:32 <headius> enebo: lots of tiny tweaks, this is a good task

18:40 <bbrowning> hmm

18:40 <bbrowning> mkristian: well, the real "fix" for that is what java people call modularization, I think

18:40 <bbrowning> for example jboss modules, used by the application server

18:41 <bbrowning> but that's not available directly inside the jvm yet

18:41 <bbrowning> only via 3rd-party efforts

18:44 <enebo> headius: great

18:45 <enebo> mkristian: dist generated files without error…have not checked for problems but it is a good start

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18:50 <mkristian> enebo, hope it remains like this ;)

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18:52 <enebo> mkristian: ;)

18:53 <headius> mkristian: perhaps this behavior needs to be off by default, or off when not running as a command-line

18:53 <enebo> post_process_artifacts made something now

18:53 <enebo> yay

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18:53 <headius> oh bugger, Thread#thread_variable

18:53 <headius> I think I need to add those quick

18:54 <enebo> headius: There is another issue you can look at if you have time: https://github.com/jruby/jruby/issues/2301

18:54 <enebo> headius: I am not sure what is up but I thought I at least verified your script

18:55 <enebo> headius: and I left a comment to you about `stty` being in the window code path

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18:56 <JRubyGithub> jruby/master 752dd26 Kevin Menard: [Truffle] Partial implementation of Encoding.compatible?.

18:56 <JRubyGithub> jruby/master 6ea1701 Kevin Menard: [Truffle] Pulled in Regexp.union from Rubinius.

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19:04 <JRubyGithub> [jruby] headius created method_audit (+19 new commits): http://git.io/CWAuiw

19:04 <JRubyGithub> jruby/method_audit 69f0830 Charles Oliver Nutter: Enumerable does not define with_object.

19:04 <JRubyGithub> jruby/method_audit 7ca8585 Charles Oliver Nutter: Enumerable#enum_with_index was removed in 1.9.3.

19:04 <JRubyGithub> jruby/method_audit 35a0b80 Charles Oliver Nutter: Add Module#public_instance_method.

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19:12 <enebo> headius: lchown/lchmod?

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19:14 <lopex> enebo: just had http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/birra-del-borgo-25-dodici/67049/

19:14 <headius> enebo: they don't exist as instance methods on File in MRI

19:14 <headius> oh shucks maybe they do on Linux though

19:14 <lopex> not impressed

19:15 <enebo> headius: yeah I just also saw the not on MRI comment but I wondered

19:15 <headius> hmm

19:15 <enebo> headius: just because we added the for some reason unless they were deprecated and removed

19:15 <enebo> lopex: I have had beer from them but not that

19:15 <headius> I only see them being defined as File class methods

19:15 <headius> I removed the instance methods

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19:16 <enebo> headius: ok. I don’t doubt they should be removed but it raised an eyebrow for some reason

19:16 <nirvdrum> Bah.

19:16 <headius> yeah

19:16 <lopex> doh, "just had" is a proper english ?

19:16 <headius> enebo: I have not run tests on any of this year and Who has some additions coming too

19:16 <headius> but I've finished my audit

19:16 <nirvdrum> lopex: It's good.

19:17 <headius> we're looking great for completeness of defined methods, in general

19:17 <headius> better than ever

19:17 <lopex> nirvdrum: the beer or the grammar ? :)

19:17 <enebo> headius: perhaps next level is mri tag pass

19:17 <nirvdrum> The grammar.

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19:18 <nirvdrum> "a proper english" -- not so much :-P

19:18 <lopex> ah

19:18 <lopex> hah

19:18 <lopex> well correct ?

19:18 <lopex> er

19:18 <lopex> valid

19:18 <lopex> whatever

19:18 <enebo> lopex: is proper english

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19:18 <enebo> no ‘a'

19:18 <lopex> ah

19:18 <enebo> and is should be before the phrase

19:19 <lopex> yes

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19:19 <JRubyGithub> [jruby] headius pushed 1 new commit to method_audit: http://git.io/EbbZoA

19:19 <JRubyGithub> jruby/method_audit 7e07be9 Charles Oliver Nutter: Add Thread#thread_variable* methods and sync all variable methods.

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19:19 <headius> enebo: yeah that's slow but I can do it for anything I've changed

19:19 <headius> that's my last commit from audit

19:19 <enebo> Is “just had” proper english (but never take grammar advice from me)

19:19 <headius> https://gist.github.com/headius/30cb2250ab8510b5f907

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19:19 <JRubyGithub> [jruby] nirvdrum pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/CLtk8A

19:19 <JRubyGithub> jruby/master aa81459 Kevin Menard: [Truffle] Retagged a spec I shouldn't have untagged.

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19:20 <nirvdrum> lopex: Alternatively, you could have added a noun afterwards, such as "a proper english construct"?

19:20 <enebo> headius: not much and some have nothing to due with correctness

19:20 <headius> the be verbs going at beginning of sentence seems to trip up a lot of non-English speakers

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19:20 <headius> unusual grammatical form in non-English languages I guess

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19:21 <enebo> I like to do german-like way “just had” proper english is?

19:21 <headius> enebo: yeah, shockingly few notes

19:21 <headius> feels good

19:21 <lopex> enebo: I always wondered, it is ok to say "that is weird, right?" but otherwise it's the "is it .."

19:21 <nirvdrum> Technically there should be a subject in there, but we often omit them even if it's not really allowed.

19:21 <enebo> that is weird. amirite?

19:22 <lopex> or is it ?

19:22 <enebo> lopex: The comma makes no sense to me but I see it all the time

19:23 <enebo> lopex: it is a declarative statement followed by a second statement asking for confirmation

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19:23 <enebo> lopex: but like I said. I am surprisingly careless with grammar

19:23 <lopex> enebo: dont ask me, I guess it's the polish spelling and sentence building rules that spoiled that

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19:24 <enebo> lopex: The think I like about English is poor grammar generally does not make the sentence unreadable

19:24 <lopex> enebo: we have tremendous set of rules regarding commas

19:24 <lopex> enebo: yeah

19:24 <enebo> lopex: sometimes ambiguous but with context almost never ambiguous

19:24 <lopex> enebo: in polish it might change the whole meaning

19:25 <enebo> lopex: eradicate it

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19:25 <lopex> enebo: I guess that's one of the reasons english won

19:25 <lopex> enebo: and that's good

19:25 <enebo> lopex: haha. I wonder sometimes

19:25 <lopex> enebo: polish language

19:25 <lopex> enebo: I would if I could

19:26 <lopex> and the whole slavic plethora of them

19:26 <enebo> lopex: I don’t know Polish but I don’t think Polish was a likely contender for international language

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19:26 <lopex> enebo: definitely not

19:26 <enebo> lopex: Spanish maybe?

19:26 <lopex> enebo: even german wouldnt be a serious contender

19:26 <lopex> enebo: right

19:26 <nirvdrum> My understanding is French is on the rise again.

19:26 <lopex> nirvdrum: too complex

19:26 <nirvdrum> Due to its prevalence in Africa.

19:26 <headius> enebo: only spec failures were for callcc

19:27 <headius> I'm just going to tag them

19:27 <enebo> headius: NAYCE

19:27 <enebo> bin and src bits seems to be in order

19:27 <nirvdrum> lopex: I never found that to be the case. But I think French follows English structures quite a bit.

19:27 <lopex> nirvdrum: yes

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19:28 <nirvdrum> I've only done German and Latin besides. My issue with German is I start talking without knowing what I'm going to say. And that doesn't work so well in a sentence where the verb needs to go at the end.

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19:29 <lopex> nirvdrum: german is cases, kinds and the like (much much simple than in polish but still)

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19:29 <enebo> VERSION = '9.0.0.0.pre1'

19:29 <enebo> MAVEN_VERSION = '9.0.0.0.pre1'

19:30 <enebo> mkristian: headius: This looks good to me but just double checking since version strings suck so bad

19:30 <enebo> This is in jruby-jars/version.rb

19:30 <enebo> 20591966 Jan 16 13:25 jruby-core-9.0.0.0.pre1.jar

19:30 <enebo> hmm

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19:32 <mkristian> enebo, these versions look ok - in jruby-jars/version.rb

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19:32 <enebo> mkristian: yes

19:32 <headius> mpapis: does a fifth version element present any challenges for RVM?

19:33 <headius> 9.0.0.0.pre1 versus 9.0.0.pre1

19:33 <headius> enebo: I did not audit ext-based stdlib obviously

19:33 <enebo> I half expected this version to be quite a bit smaller than 1.7

19:33 <headius> but I have audited those fairly recently by hand

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19:33 <headius> and stdlib is a match so that's fine

19:34 <enebo> headius: are the m17n binary tables required for runtime?

19:34 <enebo> 436952 Fri Jan 16 12:13:48 CST 2015 tables/Transcoder_Big5_WordArray.bin

19:34 <enebo> headius: I never actually looked at your port :)

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19:35 <mpapis> headius, should not

19:35 <headius> enebo: yes

19:35 <headius> they load lazily in jcodings (lopex is that right?)

19:35 <enebo> headius: ok makes sense or I would see huge .class files

19:35 <mpapis> headius, it makes sense to make it 9.0.0.0.pre1 just to be 9k, but if you care for semver - 9.0.0-preview1

19:36 <headius> enebo: right

19:36 <lopex> headius: the tables ?

19:36 <headius> lopex: the .bin files are loaded at runtime, right?

19:36 <lopex> headius: they have to... ?

19:36 <enebo> Anyone want to get on largest .class file in our distro? Beullier?

19:36 <headius> mpapis: we don't really care, and we release gems with the same number so the - doesn't work

19:37 <lopex> headius: well, I tried to make it within jvm loading threadsavety semantics

19:37 <lopex> headius: so just static field deps

19:37 <headius> we are semver (or will be)...the last .0 is security fixes, since those are usually applied in isolation

19:37 <lopex> headius: is that ok ?

19:37 <mpapis> headius, then anything will work, rvm does some pre checks for first two digits, for anything more then 3 digits you need to be specific for the version

19:38 <mpapis> *full version

19:38 <headius> mpapis: ok

19:38 <headius> thank you :-)

19:38 <mpapis> I can add extra check for 9.* to be jruby

19:39 <lopex> headius: last time the was a change it was wrt ruboto issues

19:39 <headius> mmm not right now I guess

19:39 <enebo> 308365 Fri Jan 16 12:13:44 CST 2015 org/jruby/parser/YyTables.class

19:39 <enebo> no one guessed :(

19:40 <headius> enebo: hah

19:40 <headius> not at all surprised

19:40 <headius> man that's big

19:40 <enebo> but I uncovered a mistake

19:40 <enebo> 279596 Fri Jan 16 12:13:44 CST 2015 org/jruby/parser/RubyYyTables.class

19:40 <enebo> 308365 Fri Jan 16 12:13:44 CST 2015 org/jruby/parser/YyTables.class

19:40 <headius> I bet it compresses down to like 50 bytes though

19:40 <headius> hah!

19:40 <headius> is one for ripper or something?

19:40 <headius> or just extraneous

19:40 <enebo> I think maybe missing a delete

19:41 <headius> yay

19:41 <headius> minus 50 bytes

19:41 <enebo> so as you say it compresses well :)

19:41 <headius> test:mri failures were also just callcc

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19:42 <headius> I'm going to do test:jruby and spec:regression since those could reference methods I removed, but otherwise this is looking great

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19:46 <lopex> headius: is there an agreement what transcoding tables to leave from the dist ?

19:46 <lopex> and make it optional ?

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19:49 <JRubyGithub> [jruby] headius pushed 2 new commits to method_audit: http://git.io/BJ0gJA

19:49 <JRubyGithub> jruby/method_audit 3f0280a Charles Oliver Nutter: Tag Kernel#callcc specs since it is no longer a core method.

19:49 <JRubyGithub> jruby/method_audit bac44a6 Charles Oliver Nutter: Exclude MRI tests that use callcc.

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19:52 <JRubyGithub> jruby/master 4853035 Charles Oliver Nutter: Enumerable does not define with_object.

19:52 <JRubyGithub> jruby/master 422d177 Charles Oliver Nutter: Enumerable#enum_with_index was removed in 1.9.3.

19:52 <JRubyGithub> jruby/master cec47aa Charles Oliver Nutter: Add Module#public_instance_method.

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19:55 <headius> lopex: no agreement

19:56 <headius> lopex: your thoughts?

19:56 <headius> some are bigger than others and most wouldn't be needed...but there's no mechanism for making them optional

19:56 <lopex> headius: why not a gem ?

19:56 <headius> it would require some plumbing, but it would work

19:57 <headius> MRI uses generated C code for the tables, right?

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19:57 <lopex> headius: the GB* is too rare in usage I would think ?

19:57 <headius> I sure hope so

19:57 <lopex> and it's the biggest

19:57 <lopex> and most offending ruboto

19:57 <lopex> like a joke

19:58 <headius> I suppose if jcodings could load from a provided classloader we could load them as jars from a gem easily

19:58 <lopex> well, not now, but now it's the zip size, which is not free still afterall

19:58 <headius> right

19:58 <headius> I imagine they compress well, but yeah, they're big

19:59 <lopex> the skips the ziplib has to do...

19:59 <lopex> however it works

19:59 <headius> I wish we could run from pack200

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19:59 <travis-ci> jruby/jruby (master:f12590e by Charles Oliver Nutter): The build is still failing. (http://travis-ci.org/jruby/jruby/builds/47288281)

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19:59 <headius> they promised me that a decade ago

19:59 <lopex> what does it give ?

20:00 <headius> well it's like bz2 versus zip

20:00 <headius> whole-jar compression rather than just per-class

20:00 <headius> shared const pool entries is the big one

20:00 <headius> shall we see how big a pack200 jruby.jar is?

20:00 <headius> it's depresing

20:01 <headius> kinda surprising maven central doesn't store pack200 archives

20:01 <headius> -rw-r--r-- 1 headius staff 4163413 Jan 16 14:01 jruby.pack.gz

20:02 <headius> -rw-r--r-- 1 headius staff 20604229 Jan 16 13:14 lib/jruby.jar

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20:02 <headius> 20MB is too big :-(

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20:02 <headius> truffle adds a lot

20:03 <enebo> I point this out above :)

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20:04 <enebo> so swing irb (only tried so far on windows) has no output

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20:05 <headius> nirvdrum: truffle-specs-core failing

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20:05 <headius> after Regexp.union commit

20:06 <nirvdrum> I think I pushed a fix for that.

20:06 <nirvdrum> A diff I missed committing before pushing the last time.

20:06 <headius> lopex: static fields don't give us any way to give it a classloader from which to find the table

20:07 <headius> if it's in a gem we'd likely need it to be in a jar (in JRubyClassLoader) or have additional plumbing to make gem-based .bin files available to jcodings

20:07 <lopex> mri 2.2. compiles within an hour on newest rpi if anyone liked to know

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20:07 <lopex> headius: so you need extra runtime for that ?

20:07 <headius> lopex: well, I don't know :-)

20:07 <headius> this is a napkin sketch right now

20:07 <enebo> headius: https://gist.github.com/enebo/ecf8fc61bb9caec38f88

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20:08 <nirvdrum> headius: chrisseaton is traveling at the moment, so I can't speak for him. But we could maybe omit Truffle from pre1 and figure out how to get the size down before the final release.

20:08 <lopex> headius: it's just the system classloader right ?

20:08 <headius> nirvdrum: for pre1 it's not super important, but we should talk about it

20:08 <headius> lopex: well jars in gems or via `require` go into JRubyClassLoader

20:08 <headius> the static fields would load from whatever classloader jcodings was loaded by

20:08 <headius> so it probably wouldn't see them

20:09 <lopex> headius: why not go for eager utf-8 ?

20:09 <lopex> "if you want some asumptions"

20:09 <lopex> oh

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20:09 <headius> woah

20:09 <lopex> it wouldnt owrk

20:09 <headius> nirvdrum: oops my fault

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20:10 <headius> you fixed your issue but I introduced compile error or something

20:10 <headius> er wait

20:10 <headius> the compile error is missing truffle files

20:10 <headius> I didn't do that

20:10 <nirvdrum> Are we looking at the same thing?

20:10 <nirvdrum> [ERROR] /opt/jruby/core/src/main/java/org/jruby/java/proxies/MapJavaProxy.java:[434,39] error: cannot find symbol

20:10 <nirvdrum> [ERROR] symbol: method sort(ThreadContext,Block)

20:10 <nirvdrum> location: class RubyHashMap

20:10 <lopex> headius: and why is the classloader so important ?

20:11 <headius> enebo: I'm just trying to figure out how to get there

20:11 <headius> nirvdrum: doh

20:11 <headius> ok

20:11 <nirvdrum> headius: I had to "mvn clean" before I saw the error locally.

20:11 <enebo> headius: get where? beer time?

20:11 <headius> yeah that's what I missed

20:11 <enebo> :)

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20:11 <headius> I'll reinstate it but not bind it

20:11 <nirvdrum> I'm still not entirely clear on when I need to "mvn clean"

20:11 <nirvdrum> But I've definitely pushed stuff that worked locally and failed in Travis because of it.

20:11 <enebo> headius: The jirb_swing issue is universal and not windows

20:11 <headius> our build only rebuilds modified files

20:11 <headius> so files that depend on modified files need a clean

20:11 <enebo> headius: the systm thing must only be windows

20:12 <nirvdrum> Ahh.

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20:12 <nirvdrum> Well I can always "mvn clean" locally to be safe. But if you guys don't mind a broken build that's quickly fixed every once in a while, I'll just proceed the way I have been.

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20:13 <headius> no worries

20:13 <headius> the alternative was to not do incremental builds, making them all take MUCH longer

20:13 <headius> price we pay

20:14 <lopex> headius: the classloader, why ?

20:14 <headius> lopex: you want them to be able to load from a gem, right?

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20:14 <enebo> headius: I also get the stty problem but as I commented I think I know why: https://gist.github.com/enebo/0a8bea60e7b8b1bf976b

20:15 <lopex> headius: it's the jruby classloader that has to see that ?

20:15 <headius> enebo: phooey

20:15 <headius> one of my later fixes must have re-broken io/console

20:15 <headius> it should be falling back if stty does not exist

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20:15 <enebo> headius: well it shoudl rescue and it doesn't

20:16 <enebo> headius: at least begin; `stty`; rescue; end seems ok to me

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20:16 <enebo> headius: with that said though should we even bother to try stty if on windows

20:16 <lopex> headius: what's the gem jvm semantics ?

20:16 <headius> enebo: probably not

20:16 <headius> I didn't write this, but yeah

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20:17 <enebo> headius: yeah I am just pondering since mingw and cygwin exist

20:17 <headius> lopex: gems are just added to ruby load paths and stuff...if there's files in there, we'd have to go get them manually and make jcodings see them, or they'd have to be loaded into our JRubyClassLoader as a jar

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20:17 <enebo> headius: in any case I think a failed `` should be catchable assuming this is io/console

20:17 <enebo> headius: I will comment out and try again to see

20:17 <headius> ok

20:18 <headius> I still have my ec2 instance offline

20:18 <lopex> headius: but there can be special gem list

20:18 <enebo> yay it is not io/console

20:18 <enebo> :|

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20:19 <JRubyGithub> [jruby] headius pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/fcLYLg

20:19 <JRubyGithub> jruby/master e75d587 Charles Oliver Nutter: Revert "Hash#sort was removed in 1.9.3."...

20:19 <JRubyGithub> jruby/master dd58df3 Charles Oliver Nutter: Unbind and deprecate RubyHash.sort and remove indices from proxy.

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20:19 <headius> enebo: you going to keep digging?

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20:20 <lopex> headius: what am I missing ?

20:21 <enebo> oh it is

20:21 <enebo> I did not see there are two sttys

20:21 <headius> hm

20:22 <headius> dunno why I wouldn't have seen this before

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20:22 <enebo> headius: were you using cmd?

20:23 <enebo> headius: do you have mingw or cygwin in path? I do and do not have stty but??

20:24 <enebo> headius: ok commenting out stty’s works but the bug is we cannot catch non-existent command on windows I am guessing

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20:24 <enebo> headius: perhaps no where…moving on to see if anything else breaks and will circle back

20:24 <enebo> headius: I just want list of problems

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20:38 <JRubyGithub> [jruby] Who828 opened pull request #2470: Implemented methods in MRI in JRuby for parity (master...methods_audit) http://git.io/o275Pg

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20:41 <headius> enebo: I was using powershell at first and then cmd

20:42 <headius> my zero to rails was all in cmd

20:42 <headius> enebo: oh shit

20:42 <headius> Errno doesn't < StandardError

20:42 <headius> right?

20:44 <enebo> no?

20:44 <enebo> errrm

20:44 <enebo> headius: This is MRI source

20:44 <enebo> isn’t it?

20:44 <headius> heck no

20:44 <headius> this is our hacktacular version

20:44 <enebo> heheh

20:44 <headius> MRI's is all C and makes tty calls directly

20:45 <enebo> oh well then we should just ignore this on windows

20:45 <enebo> who cares if stty happens to be running

20:45 <headius> we can do that with FFI whenever you decide it sounds fun to work on :-D

20:45 <headius> right

20:45 <headius> this was wmeissner

20:45 <enebo> headius: although this used to work

20:45 <headius> I don't know if he tested the windows stuff, or if we just broke it since

20:45 <headius> which stty call is the one?

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20:46 <enebo> headius: so 1) we don’t want to try -a one

20:46 <enebo> heh mixed message

20:46 <enebo> .,,,,..,,,

20:46 <enebo> stty -a is the case

20:46 <enebo> second one

20:46 <headius> in echo?

20:47 <enebo> anyways 1) we don’t want to even attempt stty -a

20:47 <enebo> line 197

20:47 <headius> probably not

20:47 <headius> but how did this ever work?

20:47 <enebo> for startup time

20:47 <enebo> well that is my question :)

20:47 <enebo> Errno -> Exception?

20:47 <headius> yes

20:48 <headius> well SystemCallError => Exception

20:48 <enebo> This is what we have in 1.7 right

20:48 <enebo> So `frogger` rescue Exception will break

20:48 <headius> mostly the same

20:49 <enebo> MacOS works

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20:49 <headius> indeed

20:49 <enebo> WHOA

20:49 <enebo> Works on windows

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20:50 <enebo> ah arguments

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20:50 <enebo> also works with arguments

20:50 <enebo> hmmm

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20:50 <enebo> for me this is a jruby in a jruby too

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20:51 <JRubyGithub> [jruby] headius pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/TT7meA

20:51 <JRubyGithub> jruby/master f8931b8 Smit Shah: Remove trailing space for base <= 10

20:51 <JRubyGithub> jruby/master 7402c07 Charles Oliver Nutter: Merge pull request #2464 from Who828/fix_2360...

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20:51 <headius> enebo: I have to run for a while

20:51 <headius> about to merge Who's other set of fixes

20:51 <headius> I had him audit the list with me

20:51 <enebo> ok

20:52 <headius> feelin good :-)

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20:52 <JRubyGithub> [jruby] headius closed issue #2360: String#to_i slower than MRI when trailing garbage http://git.io/Bupx5A

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20:54 <headius> cremes: I think you get testing duty for win32ole in 9k.pre1

20:54 <headius> hopefully we'll be able to put it out Monday

20:55 <cremes> headius: roger wilco

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20:57 <JRubyGithub> [jruby] headius closed pull request #2470: Implemented methods in MRI in JRuby for parity (master...methods_audit) http://git.io/o275Pg

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21:01 <lopex> enebo: do gems run under separate classloader ?

21:02 <headius> lopex: oh missed your message about special gem list

21:02 <headius> I guess, but that's still special

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21:02 <headius> if jcodings could look in a specific classloader, it could simpy be a jar that the gem requires

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21:03 <lopex> headius: I thought you were ignoring me on purpose!

21:03 <headius> lopex: the main problem is that static resource loads from static fields are *really* hard to customize

21:03 <lopex> sure

21:03 <lopex> what next ?

21:04 <headius> jcodings would need changes in any case to load them some other way

21:04 <headius> if we wanted to omit some

21:04 <headius> and it would need smarts to lazily find tables we add later

21:04 <headius> lopex: I have no solutions, only problems :-)

21:05 <lopex> soo, that wuld invole only locking

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21:06 <lopex> welll, captain obvious

21:06 <donV> Hullo!

21:06 <donV> Did anyone mention Ruboto? :)

21:06 <lopex> hiya!!

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21:11 <donV> ARGH! Gem::Version.new('9.0.0.0.SNAPSHOT') < Gem::Version.new('9.0.0.0.dev')

21:12 <donV> How to activate the multibot?

21:12 <donV> % Gem::Version.new('9.0.0.0.SNAPSHOT') < Gem::Version.new('9.0.0.0.dev')

21:13 <multibot_> true

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21:15 <headius> % Gem::Version.new('9.0.0.0-SNAPSHOT') < Gem::Version.new('9.0.0.0.pre1')

21:15 <multibot_> true

21:15 <headius> that's all I care about :-D

21:15 <mkristian> % Gem::Version.new('9.0.0.0.SNAPSHOT') < Gem::Version.new('9.0.0.0.pre1')

21:15 <multibot_> true

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21:19 <donV> :D

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21:20 <projectodd-ci> Yippie, build fixed!

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21:20 <headius> yay

21:20 <headius> bbl

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21:23 <projectodd-ci> Yippie, build fixed!

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21:34 <travis-ci> jruby/jruby (master:dd58df3 by Charles Oliver Nutter): The build was fixed. (http://travis-ci.org/jruby/jruby/builds/47291074)

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21:36 <travis-ci> jruby/jruby (master:7402c07 by Charles Oliver Nutter): The build passed. (http://travis-ci.org/jruby/jruby/builds/47294454)

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21:49 <JRubyGithub> [jruby] headius closed issue #2323: failing GH-652 spec file on current master http://git.io/8PximA

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21:51 <JRubyGithub> [jruby] enebo pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/mR3ktw

21:51 <JRubyGithub> jruby/master 93c1dba Thomas E. Enebo: We only have 2.2 mode now. Update swing launcher in windows

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21:55 <travis-ci> jruby/jruby (master:eb81674 by Charles Oliver Nutter): The build passed. (http://travis-ci.org/jruby/jruby/builds/47295248)

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21:56 <JRubyGithub> [jruby] enebo pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/EOw4Jw

21:56 <JRubyGithub> jruby/master 876235e Thomas E. Enebo: Don't bother stty -a attempt if on windows

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22:06 <chrisseaton> headius: are we doing a p1 branch?

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22:08 <donV> I am working on getting Ruboto working with JRuby 9000 now.

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22:20 <donV> Is GitHub the master repository now?

22:20 <mkristian> yes

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22:29 <nirvdrum> mkristian: I just saw your reply to https://github.com/jruby/jruby/issues/2466

22:30 <nirvdrum> Does my response make sense?

22:31 <mkristian> nirvdrum, well, I just going to include it. will find some time for the build tomorrow.

22:31 <mkristian> still would like to see jruby to be more modular - one day ;)

22:31 <nirvdrum> Yeah, I don't think there's any disagreement on that.

22:32 <donV> enebo,headus,all: Hi! I am having some trouble loading master on Android due to a link to java.lang.invoke.MethodHandles.

22:33 <donV> https://gist.github.com/donv/e22365e5a93a1df3379a

22:34 <donV> I guess org.jruby.compiler.JITCompiler is not usable on Android. Can we avoid loading it?

22:35 <nirvdrum> donV: -X-C ?

22:35 <donV> nirvdrum: Hi! :)

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22:36 <nirvdrum> Howdy. I don't know if that prevents loading at all. But it'd prevent JITting.

22:36 <enebo> donV: File and issue against 9000.pre1

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22:36 <donV> enebo: will do.

22:36 <enebo> donV: This file is not conditionally loaded so we will probably have to hide those class references so you can run interp

22:36 <donV> nirvdrum: we pass System.setProperty("jruby.compile.mode", "OFF");

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22:39 <JRubyGithub> [jruby] donv opened issue #2471: Avoid loading classes not present on Android http://git.io/FkoGKg

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22:39 <donV> enebo: Should we use OFFIR or is OFF correct?

22:40 <enebo> donV: no more OFFIR just OFF

22:40 <donV> ok

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22:40 <enebo> donV: well we still have it but just so you don’t break

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22:40 <enebo> donV: For some reason I thought we had this MethodHandle stuff mocked out

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22:41 <enebo> donV: I think you might be able to compile using that mock and the classes in question with just be replaced with mocked version

22:41 <donV> OK, what do I have to do?

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22:42 <enebo> donV: I don’t know but com.headius.jsr292-mock I think just needs to be shaded in

22:42 <enebo> donV: Or actually maybe just in your classpath

22:43 <enebo> donV: It is listed as dep in maven so you can probably just try adding it to classpath and see if you make it past this

22:43 <donV> enebo: I’ll take a look.

22:44 <enebo> -rw-r--r-- 1645 9-Jan-2014 19:53:02 java/lang/invoke/MethodHandle.class

22:44 <donV> is that in our source?

22:45 <enebo> no it is in jsr292-mock artifact I mention above

22:45 <donV> working on getting Eclipse to accept our source...

22:45 <donV> is NetBeans better?

22:45 <enebo> donV: I have been using intellij lately

22:45 <donV> community edition or something?

22:46 <enebo> donV: but that should resolve the issue.

22:46 <enebo> donV: Ulimate I think

22:46 <donV> $$$ ?

22:46 <enebo> OSS license

22:46 <donV> OK, I think I’ll try it.

22:47 <nirvdrum> chrisseaton: What issue do you see with "mvn -Pcomplete"?

22:47 <enebo> donV: but for this test you just need to get that jar with a build jruby.jar and run in android

22:47 <donV> any handy maven way to get it?

22:48 <mkristian> donV, $HOME/.m2/repository/com/headius/jsr292-mock/1.1/jsr292-mock-1.1.jar

22:48 <mkristian> should be already there

22:48 <donV> mkristian: thanks!

22:48 <chrisseaton> nirvdrum: it seems to be fixed now - and I can't immediately find one of the failures on Travis, but it was there with a failure on some Ruby script

22:48 <chrisseaton> nirvdrum: I'll look out for it and if I see it again I'll let you know

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22:49 <JRubyGithub> [jruby] enebo opened issue #2472: jirb_swing is not showing output http://git.io/p-MkXw

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22:51 <nirvdrum> Such exciting times.

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22:54 <JRubyGithub> [jruby] enebo opened issue #2473: Extra yytable.java class http://git.io/vBJtPA

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22:55 <enebo> donV: I might speculatively close that issue as won’t fix and mention the mock jar

22:56 <donV> enebo: Hold on!

22:56 <enebo> :)

22:56 <donV> enebo: I added the jsr mock jar to an app, but it will not build source in core packages.

22:56 <donV> java.lang.*

22:56 <donV> :(

22:56 <enebo> build source?

22:57 <enebo> oh you mean not make apk from java.lang?

22:57 <donV> sorry, it will not link it

22:57 <donV> yes

22:57 <enebo> donV: this jar has existed for years including 17 is it not a problem there because you omit the classes which reference this stuff?

22:58 <donV> There is an option “—core-library” that may work, but it is not recommended.

22:58 <donV> enebo: Yes, the classes are not loaded in 1.7

22:59 <enebo> donV: ok if core-library does not work then update with info explaining why mock jar does not fly

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22:59 <donV> OK

22:59 <enebo> donV: fwiw IR JIT is pretty isolated so we can probably make these classes removable still but it would be better if we could mock them out

22:59 <enebo> donV: for us anyways

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23:00 <donV> OK. Will try the —core-libray option.

23:02 <enebo> donV: Also: http://jtres2014.compute.dtu.dk/slides/pilliet.pdf

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23:03 <enebo> donV: not sure how consumable that is for you though

23:04 <donV> I have some contact with him, but I think it has to go into the VM build to be usable.

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23:15 <enebo> donV: was that with —core-library?

23:15 <enebo> donV: your last message?

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23:15 <donV> without.

23:15 <enebo> ij

23:15 <enebo> err ok

23:16 <donV> running with —core-library now…

23:16 <donV> got one step further than before :)

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23:18 <mkristian> I have a class XmlNodeSet which is implemented in java and in ruby it has a drop method. no idea where this drop method is defined - any clue ?

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23:22 <enebo> mkristian: Enumerable?

23:22 <mkristian> thanx

23:23 <enebo> mkristian: not positive but since it is a set that would make sense

23:23 <enebo> mkristian: drop/take I think was added in 2.0?

23:25 <donV> enebo: got past the apk build...

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23:25 <enebo> donV: YAY

23:25 <enebo> donV: that code should never get touched with -X-C so I am hoping you are in the clear

23:25 <projectodd-ci> Project jruby-master-test-jruby build #405: STILL FAILING in 30 min: https://projectodd.ci.cloudbees.com/job/jruby-master-test-jruby/405/

23:26 <donV> enebo: Sorry, no. Now it is being called. Maybe I am not disabling the compiler properly. Updating the issue.

23:28 <enebo> donV: ok

23:29 <enebo> donV: yeah this is likely due to it unconditionally starting and firing up an executor thread

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23:29 <JRubyGithub> [jruby] mkristian pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/7__3Qg

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23:29 <JRubyGithub> jruby/master 2e489f2 Christian Meier: add truffle stdlib - fixes #2466

23:30 <enebo> donV: this probably is easily changed since we can just guard and not load JITCompiler if it is off

23:30 <enebo> gotta run though…FRIDAY

23:30 <donV> enebo: That sounds good.

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