02:07 <fzakaria[m]> Hey headius

02:07 <fzakaria[m]> Is there a way to convert a Ruby exception to a Throwable ?

02:07 <fzakaria[m]> I would like to rescue all exceptions (Ruby Exceptions or Throwables); and pass them to a Java function that expects a throwable

02:35 <headius[m]> Hmmm

02:35 <headius[m]> to_java(java.lang.Throwable) might work

02:35 <headius[m]> If not we should add that

02:36 <headius[m]> The back door way would be JRuby.ref(exc).to_throwable

02:37 <headius[m]> Just to_java might do it too, not sure if we set up Throwable as a default

02:51 <fzakaria[m]> I saw this really old issue of yours -- https://github.com/jruby/jruby/issues/4781

02:53 <fzakaria[m]> I don't seem to have `JRuby.ref` on my version either hmm; the digging continues

03:02 <fzakaria[m]> I'm sure this is cause i'm on an old version; I'll hack around this :D

03:13 <headius[m]> Yeah, that has changed somewhat over the past few versions

03:14 <fzakaria[m]> we are finally upgrading to 9.2 so it will glorious

15:54 <venkatkms[m]> @headius: On the Indy and Rails issue, do you think it is a losing battle because it is a older ar-jdbc version (which may be Indy unfriendly)?

18:36 <headius[m]> howdy howdy

18:37 <headius[m]> venkatkms: no that shouldn't be a problem

18:37 <headius[m]> fzakaria: oh right not even 9.2

18:38 <headius[m]> it looks like 9.2 was the first version that had the work on Ruby exceptions and throwables

18:39 <headius[m]> so I think if you update to 9.2 you'll be able to just `to_java` and get the throwable for the exception

18:39 <headius[m]> it will be the same one always because it's cached

18:39 <headius[m]> I mean same throwable for a given Exception

18:40 <venkatkms[m]> headius: oh ok. Thanks. Will await your investigation. Hopefully the two exceptions are caused by a simpler underlying root case

18:41 <venkatkms[m]> headius: Migration of this large Rails app to JRuby 9.2 / JDK 14 (non indy) is going fine till now

18:42 <venkatkms[m]> We do plan to put this in production in a few days baring any last minute surprises. I am quite happy that 9.2 is quite stable

18:44 <headius[m]> yeah thank you for pushing on indy and reporting issues... I have mostly committed myself to making always-on-indy possible for 9.3 so we won't diverge compatibility anymore

18:46 <venkatkms[m]> We found that 9.2 needs to be used with latest jruby-openssl. Oldish version of jruby-openssl in Gemfile.lock fails with a confusing error.

18:48 <venkatkms[m]> btw, I also plan to do a benchmark in AWS for similar comparison (what I shared earlier is laptop based run)

19:39 <headius[m]> venkatkms: good idea anyway but that's interesting to know

19:39 <headius[m]> jruby-openssl is a really tough library to maintain

19:54 <headius[m]> venkatkms: looking into the ArgumentError now

19:57 <headius[m]> huh

19:57 <headius[m]> the method it calls is pretty simple

20:02 <headius[m]> venkatkms: this might be a bug in ar-jdbc

20:02 <headius[m]> I will update bug

20:20 <headius[m]> ping enebo and kares for https://github.com/jruby/jruby/issues/6191#issuecomment-624282547

20:20 <headius[m]> probably should get refiled as ar-jdbc bug and I should file a JRuby bug for better handling of these mismatched `required` rigs

20:38 <headius[m]> https://github.com/jruby/activerecord-jdbc-adapter/issues/1063

22:52 <headius[m]> wow this k77ch7 guy is kicking ass on encoding failures

22:53 <headius[m]> lopex: I see you merged his stuff... did you do any releases yet?

22:53 <lopex> headius[m]: no

22:53 <headius[m]> ok

22:53 <headius[m]> I'm going to ask him if he's got anything else in the pipeline since releasing is a PITA